Well lets start off with the definition of Moral which is the capability of distinguishing between right or wrong. Since we are all philosophers now, the first question that should be ask is, How do we know what is right or wrong. I would answer, right and wrong is intuitive, which therefore needs no evidence. But how come God gave us the TEN COMMANDMENTS, if we need two block of stone to tells whats moral, then my statement before is a contradiction. It seems to me that we are all programed to the TEN COMMANDMENTS, basically we judge morality on the principles of moral law presented by God, so to therefore state any conviction of wrongness or rightness, is to to presupposed the belief of God, or any religion that support these same principles. So, before Moses came down from the mountain, did we have any sense of what was right or wrong? No, that doesn't make any sense, because we were kick out of the garden, because we had a conceptual thought of evil or something like that. So where did we need God to gives moral advice if it was inherent of us after the age of Garden of Eden. So what I'm basically saying is it religiously incorrect to say we all have the same idea of morality because of our intuitive process. But why would religion need to give us moral laws if morality wasn't self-evident. HMMM, what if this was a part some kind of master plan to give religion a boost in the human hierarchy, or maybe I'm becoming a skeptic or even worse an atheist. LOL, Just joking I have strong belief in God, I just need some answers.
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:-D! These religious posts always make me happy. This may seem a bit slapdash, I'm at work hahaha, but I'll give it a go.
It's important to distinguish between what's generally moral and what's biblically moral. For instance, the first commandment is to have no other gods before the Christian God. This here is a red flag. An athiest won't take anything moral from this because he/she doesn't believe in any sort of god.
The next three commandments, don't make idols, use God's name in vain, and keeping the Sabbath are all subjective to Christian thought and wouldn't apply to an athiest, or some other religions.
Now that that's out of the way, everything else in the commandments are pretty much common sense, hahaha "common sense". I think they're intuitive.
Your mention of giving religion a boost in human heirarchy is the best part! The most intriguing as well. Remember, these commandments were initially given to those following Moses, those that depended on him. From the literature they seemed to be a highly dependent group, and would need basic issues of morality spelled out for them. For them it was a basis of survival in the eyes of God. Nowadays, it's a different story.
I think that some Christians do buy into the heirarchy. They do think that they're somehow more moral than others simply because they are Christian. This I don't believe in. We're all people who do bad things, but we also do good, even great, things. I really don't think an Athiest and a Seventh Day Adventist are that different morally at all. It totally depends on the person.
I know that I would have more respect for an Athiest who does good SIMPLY because it's intuitively the right thing to do than a Christian who does good simply because he/she's scared of not getting into Heaven.
My, that was long. I really do apologize. It's just a topic I dig a lot. Thanks, sir!
Thank you Jeremy you gave me some different insight on how to look at this subject, but what do think about morality being intuitive, are some of moral nature innate, thats why I gave the example of the ten commandments not to denounce it, but to put a time mark and distinguish the moral judgment of people before and after the ten Commandments. Do we have different degrees of morality because of the influence of culture. Or is it that we all have a fixed view of what is moral. Now if the second statement is true, then how come history tends to formulate that human morality was barbaric at first and then evolved to something to what we had. In the time of Abraham, child sacrifices were common, could mean that Abraham saw nothing wrong with sacrificing Issac. What I'm trying to get at is morality, really just intuitive or is somewhat innate , intuitive, and culturally influenced. This is turning into a great discussion we should sit down and have philosophical discussion in person .
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